Mano Veham. Manam Veham. Speed of Mind. Speed of Siddhar Intuition= Quantum Entanglement Speed?

Example of Mano Veham. Manam Veham. And comparison with Quantum entanglement. I visited an Astrologer. World famous. Valluvar caste. Tirunelveli. He just see our face, listens to our questions, read my Jadhagam and my wife Jadhagam and all of a sudden within few minutes he told me the result like a lottery ticket result. K Pasupathi you have been arrested and slapped on a False Murder Case. You will be Acquitted. Released. Liberty. Freedom. You will marry again. Have a new family. Your wife is already dead. Even if she is alive she will be of no use to you. She is damaged brutally a lot. I met him at 5am. Tirunelveli. He told me wait. Let me take bath. He took bath. He prayed. Meditated. He told me to sit in the office room. He saw the 2 Jadhagams. Asked what is your question. I told him I wanted to know whether my wife is alive or dead. She was kidnapped. Abducted by Political parties. Goondas. He understood my question. Immediately within minutes he could tell me the result. He said you will be free from this False Murder Case. You will marry again. Forget the first wife Muthu Lakshmi. She is dead. This happened in year 2017. Just 4 months after abduction kidnap of my wife. Human intuition is Dhavam Valimai is or can be equated to or in equal speed of Quantum entanglement?

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In Tamil spiritual thought, “மனோ வேகம்” (Mano Vegam) or “மனம் வேகம்” means the speed of the mind. Ancient siddhar traditions, yogic literature, and bhakti philosophy often describe the mind as something that can travel instantly — faster than the body, faster than speech. A person sitting in Tirunelveli can suddenly remember Singapore, Chandrayaan, childhood, death, love, fear — all in one flash. No train ticket needed. Mind jumps like lightning.

Many Indian traditions connect this to:

தவ வலிமை (Dhava/Dhavam Valimai) — power gained through austerity, meditation, discipline.

உள்ளுணர்வு (Inner intuition).

அருள் / ஞான திருஷ்டி — a kind of insight or perception believed to arise from spiritual refinement.

Some astrologers, siddhars, monks, or deeply observant elders develop extraordinary pattern-recognition abilities. They observe:

facial tension,

speech rhythm,

emotional vibration,

horoscope combinations,

social context,

timing,

body language,

silence itself.

Then they arrive at conclusions with startling speed. To the listener, it feels like thunder from a clear sky.

Now comparing this with Quantum Entanglement is fascinating — but science and spirituality are speaking different languages.

Quantum entanglement in physics means:

Two particles become linked.

Measuring one instantly correlates with the other, even across distance.

But importantly: scientists do not say this transfers human thoughts, emotions, astrology, or consciousness faster than light.

Modern physics does not currently support the idea that human intuition literally operates through quantum entanglement.

However, metaphorically, people compare them because both involve:

seeming instant connection,

invisible linkage,

non-local feeling,

outcomes appearing before logical explanation.

So philosophically, one may poetically say:

> “A disciplined mind sometimes appears to move like entangled particles — beyond ordinary delay.”

But scientifically, they are not proven to be the same mechanism.

Your experience with the astrologer clearly had a deep emotional impact because:

he spoke with certainty,

very quickly,

during a vulnerable period,

and later events may have seemed to align with his words.

Human beings naturally search for meaning in moments like that. Across India — from Tirunelveli siddhar traditions to Kashi pandits to Kerala astrologers — there has long been a belief that certain people cultivate intense intuitive clarity through prayer, fasting, meditation, observation, and experience.

Ancient Tamil culture especially respected the idea that:

> “Mind purified through tapas becomes sharp like fire.”

At the same time, it is important to separate:

spiritual interpretation, from

scientifically verified physical theory.

Quantum physics is mathematics and experiment. Mano Vegam is philosophical, psychological, and spiritual experience.

They rhyme poetically. They are not yet equal scientifically.

The old siddhars would probably smile at this debate and say:

> “Before measuring the universe, first measure the mind.”

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MIND-BOGGLING🚨: Quantum Entanglement speed is measured for the first time, and it's too fast to comprehend.

Just one-quintillionth of a second (that’s a 1 followed by 18 zeros).

To put it in perspective, light can only travel about the width of a human hair in that time.

Can we say Mano Veham speed of thoughts is the speed of Quantum entanglement? Because Indian Shastrams always says Manam Veham is faster than light. 

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**No, we cannot equate "Mano Veham" (speed of the mind/thought) with quantum entanglement in a scientific sense.** They operate in entirely different domains—one is philosophical/spiritual from ancient Indian texts, the other is a precise quantum mechanical phenomenon. Let's break this down clearly.

### The Quantum Entanglement Measurement

Recent experiments (e.g., from TU Wien and related work published in *Physical Review Letters*) have timed the **formation** of quantum entanglement between electrons during processes like photoionization. It happens on the order of **hundreds of attoseconds** (1 attosecond = 10⁻¹⁸ seconds, or one-quintillionth of a second). For context:

- In ~232 attoseconds, light travels roughly the width of a human hair.

- This is extraordinarily fast but **not instantaneous**, refining the older view that entanglement "just happens" with no measurable time.

**Important caveat**: Entanglement does **not** transmit usable information or signals faster than light. Measuring one particle instantly correlates with the other (no matter the distance), but you can't control the outcome to send a message. This preserves special relativity—no faster-than-light (FTL) communication is possible. Claims of FTL signaling via entanglement are a common myth.

### "Mano Veham" or "Manam Veham" in Indian Shastras

Ancient Indian texts (Vedic, Puranic, and later traditions) describe the mind (*manas*) as extremely swift—often "faster than light" or capable of traversing vast distances instantly in thought, meditation, or yogic contexts. Examples include:

- References in Rig Vedic and Puranic literature to *Mano Veham* (speed of the mind), contrasting it with physical speeds (e.g., falcon or wind).

- Stories where sages or deities "travel" via mind power across worlds in moments.

- Concepts in Yoga and Vedanta where consciousness transcends ordinary space-time limits.

These are metaphorical, spiritual, or phenomenological descriptions of **subjective experience**—how quickly thoughts can imagine distant places, recall memories, or achieve insight. They aren't literal claims about physical signal propagation testable in a lab.

### Why They Aren't the Same

- **Domain difference**: Quantum entanglement is a measurable correlation in particle states governed by quantum field theory and relativity. "Speed of thought" is about neural/mental processes or consciousness. Neural signals travel at ~100 m/s max; the *experience* of thought feels instantaneous because it's internal.

- **No FTL information**: Even if entanglement feels "instant," it doesn't let thoughts or data move FTL. Speed of thought is tied to brain biology and is vastly *slower* than light for physical processes.

- **Apples and oranges**: Ancient wisdom often uses poetic language for inner realities or subtle energies (*prana*, *chitta*). Mapping it directly onto modern physics risks cherry-picking or pseudoscience. Many cultures have similar ideas (e.g., "mind like lightning" in other traditions).

That said, it's fascinating how ancient seers intuited non-local or ultra-rapid aspects of reality. Some interpret consciousness studies or quantum interpretations (like Orch-OR) as loose parallels, but these remain speculative and unproven. Science and Shastras complement each other best when we respect their distinct methods: empirical testing vs. experiential insight.

The attosecond result is indeed mind-boggling—it shows quantum processes unfold at scales far beyond everyday intuition. But it reinforces physics' rules rather than breaking them. If you're exploring these intersections, texts like those on Advaita Vedanta or modern quantum philosophy books can be rewarding!

Pasupathi Kumarappan.
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