Pulaiyan Pulaichchi Pulaiyars Cheranmar people were indeed descendents of Tamil Penn Kaikeyi. Kaikesi. Pulastheenam became Palestine. Extradited Pulaiyan Pulaichchi Pulaiyar Pulaiyah became Palestine people.

Pulaiyan Pulaichchi Pulaiyars Cheranmar people were indeed descendents of Tamil Penn Kaikeyi. Kaikesi. Mahabharatam King Dasarathan wife is also Kaikeyi. My philosophy research writings says Pulaiyan Pulaichchi Pulaiyars Cheranmar people were actually descendants of Pulasthiyar Maharishi who were defeated during the Raman vs Ravanan Agathiyar vs Ravanan Veenai Contest and Agathiyar vs Pulathiyar Kolhai Por. War of Policies. War of Philosophies. This after the end of the Ramayanam Wars 10000000 s thousands and crores of people of Sri Lanka to Sree Vaikundam to Kerala state called Alahapuri அளகைமாநகர் அளகாபுரி which were ruled together by Pulathiyar Maharishi 2 wife's sons namely Guberan (Tamil Brahmi Pot Shreds say this name as Ku Viran. Tamilli Tamil Brahmi Kuviran became Guberan Guveran Che Guevara at North America and South America.)

North America and South America were once ruled by this ancient Tamil Black People called Maayan Mayan Asuran Viswakarma Aasari Aacharya Aachari Sivachariyar people. This Maayan Mayan Asuran Viswakarma people built splendid Stone Pyramids all over the World as Orion Oraiyan Aryan people. Compare and refer the similarity of Thailand Sumatra Java Cambodia Kambhu Bhojhakam Bali Indonesia Malaysia Kadaram Kedah Sri Lanka Pyramid Stone Temples and the similarity with North America and South America stone Pyramids.....This Maayan Mayan Asuran Viswakarma Aasari Aacharya Aachari Sivachariyar people created the Maayan Mayan culture of North America and South America....They invented flying machines such as Pushpakam Vimanam. BC7000 BC5000 itself Thiri Puram Asuran burning story Puranam by Lord Shiva explicitly says the 3 Asurans Thiripuradhiyar namely Tharakatchan Kamalatchan Vidyunmali has Bronze Brass Silver flying forts. Exemplary construction of Engineering works. They were flying all over the skies & disturbing the Devars. Devas. Tortured the Devar people a lot who didn't know Engineering. Who didn't know how to build flying machines. Aeroplanes. Thus happened the Thiri Puram Asurarhal Vadham. Thiripuram Samharam. Lord Shiva takes just one Ambu. Arrow. But even that was not needed. He just laughed. His smile killed all the 3 Asurans Thiripuradhiyar namely Tharakatchan Kamalatchan Vidyunmali who were of these Brahma Kshatriyan Rakshashans Asurans like Mahabali & Narakasuran & Padmasuran & Ravanan & Iranyatchan & Iranyan whose were all Blacks & Dark Heavy Black People but very highly intelligent skilled Engineering Dominance people. These Thiripuram Asurans hated Aryan Shivan white skinned Kings born out of mixture of Black Skinned Dark Skinned Lord Shiva and his White Skinned Parvathi Parthinon Parthiyans Parsis Persian Avestan Roman European Yavana Iona Yavanar woman the Umaiyal Umaiya Parvathi white skinned woman. This mixture of Black Shiva & White Parvathi created new white skinned Kings of North India who hated the Black Skinned but highly intelligent skilled Engineering Dominance people of South India. Thus the war between Aryans & Dravidians happened as Thiripuram Asurans Thiripuradhiyar Vadham. Thiripuram Asurans Samharam. Pulathiyar Pulaiyar Pulaiyan Pulaichchi Pulasthiyar Maharishi and his wife Ilavidai Ilavila created white skinned Guberan. Kuviran. Guveran. This man was short height. White skin. Persian. Avestan. European. Yavanar. He didn't know how to protect his land Alahapuri. Alahai Manaharam. Vast Stretch of land from SreeVaiKundam Tirunelveli District to Sri Lanka. Highly rich super duper rich country. Alahapuri. Alahai Manaharam. This country rulership was taken over by highly skilled efficient Engineering Dominance Ravanan people who are Pulasthiyar Maharishi perans like Pulaiyan Pulaichchi Pulaiyar Pulaiyan people Cheranmar people. Guveran Guberan Kuviran Tamilan also imported the world's first flying machine Pushpakam Vimanam from the same Maayan Mayan Asuran Viswakarma Aasari Aacharya Aachari Sivachariyar people of North America and South America. This imported Pushpakam Vimanam also stolen by half brother Ravanan. This Ravanan Nedu VaaLL Arakkan Rakshashan Raatchsan stolen the flying machine Pushpakam Vimanam imported from America by Guberan Guveran Kuviran. That's why even now Che Guevara name is found in South America Spanish Hispanic people. Also Nedu VaaLL Arakkan Rakshashan Raatchsan Ravanan raped Rambai the beautiful damsel nymph nymphet at Devar Logam. Devalogam. North India to all South East Asian Nations such as Thailand Sumatra Java Cambodia Kambhu Bhojhakam Bali Indonesia Malaysia Kadaram Kedah Vietnam Annam etc. All above mistakes of Ravanan ended his kingdoms. Rules. Rulership. Many Pulasthiyar Maharishi sons perans people extradited to water less desert the Syria Lebanon Palestine which are actually Pulastheenam. Pulasthiyar Maharishi sons perans land. Pulastheenam became Palestine.

Pulathiyar Maharishi Samadhi was supposed to be at Papanasam Koyil and Thiruvananthapuram Kerala Koyil. Both places his ashes Samadhi Lingam were removed and replaced by Agathiyar Maharishi Samadhi Mausoleum Shiva Lingam. Pulathiyar Pulaiyar Pulaiyan Pulaichchi are mentioned in Tamil Thevaram Thiruvasagam Thiurppathihangal too as very low class untouchable people. Arakkans. Rakshashans.

Nedu VaaLL Arakkan Thevaram says about Ravanan. Can we imply that Ramayanam Raman vs Ravanan war was a result of Agathiyar versus Pulathiyar Maharishi policy wars? Kolhai Por?

Kolhai Por means War of Policies War of Philosophy.

Did Ravanan announced himself as Brahma Kshatriyan? When he did it? Where he did it? Why he did it? What was the need for doing it?

Short answer first—no clean, early, authoritative source says Ravana publicly stood up and declared, “I am a Brahma-Kshatriya.” That exact slogan is more a later interpretive label than a verbatim ancient proclamation.

Now let’s unpack it with some discipline.

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What was Ravana’s lineage?

In the core text, the Ramayana by Valmiki:

Father: Vishrava → a Brahmin sage

Grandfather: Pulastya → one of the great rishis

Mother: Kaikesi → from a Rakshasa clan

So by paternal line, Ravana is Brahmin.

But by birth context and conduct, he is a king, warrior, conqueror.

This duality is where the later label “Brahma-Kshatriya” comes from.

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Did he ever announce it?

There is no well-accepted episode in Valmiki Ramayana where Ravana formally declares:

> “I am Brahmin + Kshatriya.”

What you do see instead:

He boasts of his tapas (penance) to Brahma

He asserts his invincibility and royal authority

Others refer to him as:

“Brahmana by birth”

“Rakshasa king”

“Mighty Kshatriya-like ruler”

So the identity is implied, not formally proclaimed.

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Then where did “Brahma-Kshatriya” idea come from?

This is a post-textual classification—a way scholars and later traditions tried to resolve a paradox:

> How can a Brahmin be a violent emperor?

Answer they created: 👉 He is a Brahmin by birth + Kshatriya by function

In Sanskrit social logic:

Varna = birth + duty (dharma)

Ravana breaks the neat box → so a hybrid label emerges

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Why would such a label even be needed?

Here’s the strategic layer—this is where history, politics, and narrative engineering meet.

1. To justify his power

Ravana was not a small king. He was:

Emperor of Lanka

Conqueror of regions

Challenger even to the Devas

To legitimize that scale:

Brahmin lineage gives spiritual authority

Kshatriya behavior gives political legitimacy

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2. To explain his contradiction

Ravana:

Performs yajnas, knows Vedas

But also abducts Sita and wages war

That contradiction needed a framework → hence hybrid identity.

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3. To elevate the drama of Rama

If Ravana were just a demon, the story is simple.

But making him:

Scholar

Devotee

Powerful ruler

…turns the war into:

> Dharma vs Adharma within civilization itself

That’s a much richer narrative.

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Did Ravana himself feel this identity conflict?

That’s the more interesting question.

In many later retellings:

He is aware of his Brahmin roots

Yet chooses ego (ahankara) over dharma

So the story becomes:

> Knowledge without restraint becomes destruction.

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Bottom line

No clear historical/scriptural moment of Ravana declaring “I am Brahma-Kshatriya”

The term is a later intellectual shortcut

It exists to explain his mixed identity: sage lineage + imperial ambition

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If you want, I can go deeper into:

How different regional Ramayanas (Tamil, Bengali, Jain versions) portray Ravana differently

Or whether Ravana can be seen as a *Dravidian king reinterpreted through Sanskrit texts*—that’s a much sharper debate, and I think you’ll find it interesting.

You’re drawing a bold line—but that line doesn’t hold if we stay anchored to what the texts actually say.

Let’s walk it carefully.

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What does “Nedu Vaal Arakkan” in Thevaram imply?

In the hymns of Tirugnana Sambandar and Appar, Ravana is often described as:

“Nedu Vaal Arakkan” → tall, mighty, sword-bearing Rakshasa

A powerful but arrogant devotee of Shiva

The famous motif:

Ravana tries to lift Mount Kailash

Shiva presses him down

Ravana sings in devotion (leading to the idea of Shiva Tandava Stotram)

So in Thevaram, Ravana is:

> Not a political symbol — but a devotional warning: power without humility collapses.

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Now your core question:

Was Ramayana war actually Agathiyar vs Pulathiyar policy war?

You’re mapping:

Agastya → South / Tamil / order

Pulastya → Ravana lineage

And asking:

> Was this a hidden “Kolhai Por” (clan/lineage war)?

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Here is the grounded reality:

1. Textual evidence — not supporting it

In the Ramayana:

Agastya actually supports Rama

He gives Rama:

Knowledge

Weapons (like the Aditya Hridayam teaching in later tradition)

There is no confrontation between:

Agastya vs Pulastya

No “policy war” between their lineages

Pulastya is barely active in the war narrative.

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2. Nature of the war in Ramayana

The war is framed as:

Ravana abducts Sita

Rama responds

So the trigger is:

> Personal adharma → not ideological lineage conflict

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3. What about “Kolhai Por” (clan war)?

Your instinct is interesting—but here’s the correction:

Ancient Indian texts do contain clan wars (Mahabharata is full of it)

But Ramayana is structured differently:

It’s ethical narrative first, political second

There is no clear encoding of:

> Agastya clan vs Pulastya clan war

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However… your intuition is not completely off

Here’s where it gets nuanced—and interesting.

Subtle layer:

Agastya represents:

Settled Vedic order

Southern expansion of dharma

Ravana represents:

Older power structure

Non-Vedic / Rakshasa sovereignty

So symbolically, one can read it as:

> Order vs defiant power

But that is philosophical interpretation, not historical record.

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Why Thevaram still calls him “Arakkan” (Rakshasa)?

Tamil Saiva tradition does something sharp:

It acknowledges Ravana’s devotion

But still calls him:

> Arakkan (ego-driven being)

That means:

> Bhakti alone doesn’t excuse arrogance or injustice.

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Straight answer

❌ No evidence that Ramayana war = Agastya vs Pulastya policy war

❌ No clear “Kolhai Por” (clan war) structure in the text

✅ Possible symbolic reading: order vs arrogance, dharma vs ego

✅ Thevaram uses Ravana as a moral and devotional archetype, not a political one

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Final thought (and I’ll be blunt)

Turning Ramayana into a lineage war theory is tempting—it gives a grand geopolitical flavor.

But the original composers were doing something else:

> They were building a moral operating system for society, not recording a clan war archive.

If you want, we can explore something sharper:

How Tamil traditions reinterpret Ravana differently from North Indian texts

Or whether Ravana represents a *memory of southern kings reshaped by later Sanskrit narratives*

That’s where your line of thinking becomes really powerful.

Kolhai Por means War of Policies War of Philosophy

Pasupathi Kumarappan.
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