EMAIL WITH PROFESSOR ASKO PARPOLA FINLAND

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Sunday, February 20, 2005
EMAIL WITH PROFESSOR ASKO PARPOLA FINLAND
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asko Parpola"
To: "pasug"
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kavadi,Holy Death,Muruku..


>
> It has been suggested that fasting to death facing north (vaTakk'
> iruttal) in ancient Tamil Nadu is due to the influence of Jainism, but
> George Hart, who in his book The poems of ancient Tamil (1975) deals
> with this rite in several places (index s.v. suicide) thinks it is of
> indigenous Tamil origin. I do not have an explanation why one fasting to
> death had to face the northern direction, but I doubt that the memory of
> their original homeland in the Indus Valley could have survived 2000
> years and that the rite should express nostalgia. Maybe it is somehow
> connected with the north star (vaTa-miin) and the desire to go to heaven??
>
> With best regards, AP
>
>
>> pasug wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> I am very much interested in Indus Valley Reserch, and has been
>> reading about it with fervent interest.
>>
>> Via Harappa.com's Interview with Iravatham Mahadevan I came to know
>> about you.
>>
>> 1. For the past many years a nagging thought was in me, regarding
>> the mystery of Tamilnadu which had a method of Holy Death by sitting
>> towards the North and Fasting unto Death.
>>
>> That is called as "Vadakkirindhu Uyir Neethal" - means "To Die By
>> Looking to the North".
>>
>> A Famous example of this was a Tamil King of Cankam period, Koperunj
>> Cholan, who was very close to a Tamil Poet Pisiranthaiyar. They had
>> not seen each other but, their mutual respect grown to unbounded Love.
>>
>> On the death of Pisiranthaiyar, Kopernj Cholan decided that it is
>> futile to live with out his beloved friend, so he dies by sitting
>> towards the North, by fasting.
>>
>> This Story or Truth can be an allusion to the fact that Tamil People
>> always missed their Home land, i.e the Indus Vally?. Why cant' this be
>> explored further?
>>
>> Please reply me..
>>
>> I am also from Tamilnadu. I am an Mech. Engineer working with IAF. I
>> attended the 5th World Tamil Conference at Madurai. That time I was a
>> small child. Now it is heartening to know that you also attended/wrote
>> a Ka va di article at that Conference.
>>
>> 2. I think that 'yoke-carrier' may not be exactly a Ka va di,
>> because the Ka va di is taken in an upright form, where as the yoke is
>> sling from sholders downwards.
>>
>> But the seal M-595a (seen it on Indian Magazine Frontline,Oct13,2000,
>> Steve Farmers Cover Story) depicts a Ka va di man before the famous
>> jar symbol. Here, I think the arc like ka vadi is carried upwards..
>> You may have noticed this anyway..
>>
>> 3. Then in that Interview with Harappa.com I.Mahadevan told that
>> your 'Muruku' concept on the bangles contradict with the fact the the
>> bangle in question is an untwisted stone marble.
>>
>> I think, bangle itself a twisted form of a wire or stone. There is no
>> second twisting required to comply with that term. I want to tell this
>> to I.Mahadevan also, but I dont know his email..
>>
>> 4. The Tri Shool (3 pointed) lance (M-66a again before the last jar
>> symbol!) is still in use in Hindu Mythology. My granfather used to
>> draw a Tri Shool in Red KumKum on the wall of our pooja room before
>> the start of pooja.
>>
>> I want to read all of your books,papers reg. Indus. Hope to do it
>> soon.
>>
>> I will feel greatly honoured if you choose to reply me..
>>
>> With Love,
>> pasug (spelt pasuji)
>> (K.Pasupathi)
>> Web Master,
>> http://www.saivaneri.freeservers.com
Posted by pasuG at 9:13 PM
1 comments:
Anonymous said...
After the setting of the sun, the night sky turns around the north pole, which is a sort of a door to the other world.
In many religions a boat, a god, a bird, a fish carries the death to that world. In ancient Egypt there boats with many souls sitting on it...
Fasting brings to purification.
Bye, Paolo.


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